Comments on: The Difference: God and Christ http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/ Learn how I make money online by blogging at home in the Philippines - Sustines Laplana Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:49:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kauri http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/#comment-324953 kauri Sun, 10 May 2009 11:24:02 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/#comment-324953 This article is not misleading. If you found yourself being hurt you might be reading a pure gospel. Actually if you review the entire text Mr. Selaplana is just re-emphasizing those statement from the bible without his personal interpretation. Just read it in an open mind. Well this is not surprising since catholic priest seldom use bible in their worship services. Regarding their differences I would like to discuss on the third part which says that God put everything under Christ feet, but Christ is subject to God. 27For he “has put everything under his feet.”[a] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:27-28, ibid) Let's talk about the Trinitarian doctrine which they claim to be equal in power. One of the many reasons why the Trinitarian doctrine is allegedly so mysterious is that to equal one God, the three distinct persons have to be co-equal and coeternal. Cardinal Gibbons stated this belief succinctly, thus: “The Catholic Church teaches that there is but one God, who is infinite in knowledge, in power, in goodness, and in every other perfection; who created all things by His omnipotence, and governs them by His Providence. " “In this one God there are three distinct Persons, --the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, who are perfectly equal to each other.” (The Faith of our Fathers, p.1) Again let's quote the third part of this article: 27For he “has put everything under his feet.”[a] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:27-28, ibid) God put everything under Christ feet, therefore Christ is subject to God right? So, what happens now to the claims of the catholic athorities that those three persons are equal? “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you’, If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.” (Jn. 14:28, New International Version) The Lord Jesus Christ Himself declared that the Father is greater than He. In other words, Jesus is subordinate to the Father. In his letter to the Corinthians, Apostle Paul also testified that the Lord Jesus Christ is subordinate to the Father, he said: “For the scripture says, ‘God put all things under his feet’. It is clear, or course, that the words ‘all things’ do not include God himself, who puts all things under Christ. But when all things have been placed under Christ’s rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely overall.” (I Cor. 15:27-28, Today’s English Version) On the day of Judgment, the Lord Jesus Christ will place or subject himself to God. Therefore, the Father is greater than the Son; they are not equal. The one sent is not greater than the sender How about the Holy Spirit? Is the Holy Spirit subordinate to the Father and to the Son? Christ taught that there is a great difference between the sender and the one sent: “Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.” (Jn. 13:16, Revised Standard Version) According to Christ’s teaching, the one sent is not greater than the one who sends. In the other words, the sender is greater than the one sent. The Father sends the Holy Spirit: “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.” (Jn. 14:26, Ibid.) Therefore, the Father and the Holy Spirit are not coequal. Aside from the Father, who else sends the Holy Spirit? Christ said: “But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me.” (Jn. 15:26, Ibid.) Christ also send the Holy Spirit. Thus, the Son and the Holy Spirit are not coequal. Who sent Christ? “After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: ‘Father,…Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent’.” (Jn. 17:1,3, NIV) The Holy spirit is not God but a councelor a "spirit of truth" being sent to those disciples of Christ in his Church. The Father is sovereign over all. The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Bible. In fact, this doctrine blatantly contradicts biblical teaching. The true Christians recognize only one God as supreme. That one God is the Father alone: “One God and Father of [us] all, Who is above all [sovereign over all], pervading all and [living] in [us] all.” (Eph. 4:6, Amplified Bible) He is the same God who stated that He cannot be compared to anyone: As what the Father says: “To whom will you compare me or count me equal? To whom will you liken me that we may be compared?” (Is. 46:5, NIV) Those who accept the truth that the Father alone is God are one step closer to eternal life (Jn. 17:3,1). This article is not misleading. If you found yourself being hurt you might be reading a pure gospel. Actually if you review the entire text Mr. Selaplana is just re-emphasizing those statement from the bible without his personal interpretation. Just read it in an open mind. Well this is not surprising since catholic priest seldom use bible in their worship services.

Regarding their differences I would like to discuss on the third part which says that God put everything under Christ feet, but Christ is subject to God.

27For he “has put everything under his feet.”[a] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:27-28, ibid)

Let’s talk about the Trinitarian doctrine which they claim to be equal in power.

One of the many reasons why the Trinitarian doctrine is allegedly so mysterious is that to equal one God, the three distinct persons have to be co-equal and coeternal. Cardinal Gibbons stated this belief succinctly, thus:

“The Catholic Church teaches that there is but one God, who is infinite in knowledge, in power, in goodness, and in every other perfection; who created all things by His omnipotence, and governs them by His Providence. ”

“In this one God there are three distinct Persons, –the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, who are perfectly equal to each other.”

(The Faith of our Fathers, p.1)

Again let’s quote the third part of this article:

27For he “has put everything under his feet.”[a] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:27-28, ibid)

God put everything under Christ feet, therefore Christ is subject to God right?
So, what happens now to the claims of the catholic athorities that those three persons are equal?

“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you’, If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.”

(Jn. 14:28, New International Version)

The Lord Jesus Christ Himself declared that the Father is greater than He. In other words, Jesus is subordinate to the Father. In his letter to the Corinthians, Apostle Paul also testified that the Lord Jesus Christ is subordinate to the Father, he said:

“For the scripture says, ‘God put all things under his feet’. It is clear, or course, that the words ‘all things’ do not include God himself, who puts all things under Christ. But when all things have been placed under Christ’s rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely overall.”

(I Cor. 15:27-28, Today’s English Version)

On the day of Judgment, the Lord Jesus Christ will place or subject himself to God. Therefore, the Father is greater than the Son; they are not equal.

The one sent is not greater than the sender

How about the Holy Spirit? Is the Holy Spirit subordinate to the Father and to the Son? Christ taught that there is a great difference between the sender and the one sent:

“Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.”

(Jn. 13:16, Revised Standard Version)

According to Christ’s teaching, the one sent is not greater than the one who sends. In the other words, the sender is greater than the one sent. The Father sends the Holy Spirit:

“But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.”

(Jn. 14:26, Ibid.)

Therefore, the Father and the Holy Spirit are not coequal. Aside from the Father, who else sends the Holy Spirit? Christ said:

“But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me.”

(Jn. 15:26, Ibid.)

Christ also send the Holy Spirit. Thus, the Son and the Holy Spirit are not coequal. Who sent Christ?

“After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: ‘Father,…Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent’.”

(Jn. 17:1,3, NIV)

The Holy spirit is not God but a councelor a “spirit of truth” being sent to those disciples of Christ in his Church.

The Father is sovereign over all.

The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Bible. In fact, this doctrine blatantly contradicts biblical teaching. The true Christians recognize only one God as supreme. That one God is the Father alone:

“One God and Father of [us] all, Who is above all [sovereign over all], pervading all and [living] in [us] all.”

(Eph. 4:6, Amplified Bible)

He is the same God who stated that He cannot be compared to anyone:

As what the Father says:
“To whom will you compare me or count me equal? To whom will you liken me that we may be compared?”

(Is. 46:5, NIV)

Those who accept the truth that the Father alone is God are one step closer to eternal life (Jn. 17:3,1).

]]> By: SELaplana http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/#comment-194136 SELaplana Mon, 19 May 2008 07:41:01 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/#comment-194136 kindly explain why you said that what I wrote here is misleading.... kindly explain why you said that what I wrote here is misleading….

]]> By: Tyrone http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/#comment-194076 Tyrone Mon, 19 May 2008 01:32:47 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/#comment-194076 I enjoyed your site.. but when I opened this topic.. Huh.. some kind a misleading... do you belong in JW of INC? Don't use any scripture if you yourself could not even understand. I enjoyed your site.. but when I opened this topic.. Huh.. some kind a misleading… do you belong in JW of INC? Don’t use any scripture if you yourself could not even understand.

]]> By: Evans http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/#comment-190346 Evans Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:27:00 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2006/05/26/the-difference-god-and-christ/#comment-190346 What are you talking about, your are misleading people by believing that Jesus is different from God. Please read this http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/jesusgd2.htm and you'll learn that Jesus is God. Please delete this post before it corrupts people's mind. What are you talking about, your are misleading people by believing that Jesus is different from God. Please read this http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/jesusgd2.htm and you’ll learn that Jesus is God. Please delete this post before it corrupts people’s mind.

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