Comments on: The Controversy on the Blog of a 13-year Old Kid http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/ Make Money Online, Technology Stories, Products Review. (Southern Leyte's First E-Marketing and Blogging Experience - Direct from Maasin Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:11:33 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Make More Money with Debt » SELaplana http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-160835 Make More Money with Debt » SELaplana Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:17:08 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-160835 [...] people who are not well skilled, not talented in making money online and are the opposite of the 13-year old Filipino blogger or the Pinay Scandal founder (lol) but are making money well online. Their income is even higher [...] [...] people who are not well skilled, not talented in making money online and are the opposite of the 13-year old Filipino blogger or the Pinay Scandal founder (lol) but are making money well online. Their income is even higher [...]

]]> By: 4 Ways in Getting Other Bloggers Talk About You » SELaplana http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-87702 4 Ways in Getting Other Bloggers Talk About You » SELaplana Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:15:12 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-87702 [...] a controversy. Yes! I’s one of the ways so that other will talk about you. The 13-year old kid blogger is quite successful on [...] [...] a controversy. Yes! I’s one of the ways so that other will talk about you. The 13-year old kid blogger is quite successful on [...]

]]> By: SELaplana http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-84409 SELaplana Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:59:03 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-84409 you're welcome... and i am signing up an account at your site.... you’re welcome… and i am signing up an account at your site….

]]> By: Pinoy http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-84201 Pinoy Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:02:17 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-84201 My pleasure. It was something that sparked my interest to comment so i did. Anyway, i get the chance to post my website as well. Thanks for allowing that as well. Cheers. My pleasure. It was something that sparked my interest to comment so i did. Anyway, i get the chance to post my website as well. Thanks for allowing that as well.

Cheers.

]]> By: SELaplana http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-84171 SELaplana Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:58:53 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-84171 Eugene >>> you have points but i still believe that ghost blogging is not at all time bad. With regards to the term force, well I am just idiot to use the term FORCE and I think, Pinoy's point is right. Pinoy >>> thanks for visiting me here. Eugene >>> you have points but i still believe that ghost blogging is not at all time bad. With regards to the term force, well I am just idiot to use the term FORCE and I think, Pinoy’s point is right.

Pinoy >>> thanks for visiting me here.

]]> By: Pinoy http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-84030 Pinoy Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:44:56 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-84030 I couldn't agree more Eugene in referrence to Argument 2. Persuading/Encouraging a child to do something is fine but forcing a child to do something is another matter. However, with regards to blogging, it's entirely upto that person if the blogger decides to remain anonymous by using codenames or whatever. What's completely and utterly wrong, is to impersonate a real person, in the case of Carl, "if" the father is the real blogger but using his son's name (with referrence to selaplana's blog above). I couldn’t agree more Eugene in referrence to Argument 2. Persuading/Encouraging a child to do something is fine but forcing a child to do something is another matter.

However, with regards to blogging, it’s entirely upto that person if the blogger decides to remain anonymous by using codenames or whatever. What’s completely and utterly wrong, is to impersonate a real person, in the case of Carl, “if” the father is the real blogger but using his son’s name (with referrence to selaplana’s blog above).

]]> By: Eugene http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-83931 Eugene Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:41:23 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-83931 My hacking and alms-begging examples have nothing to directly do with the Ocab issue. I just stated these to point out that your two arguments are flawed: Argument #1: Blogging as if you're somebody else is normal, therefore Alan Ocab writing as if he were Carl Ocab is part of the norm and is not wrong. Argument #2: A parent forcing a child to do something can be beneficial, therefore Alan Ocab forcing Carl Ocab to blog is not wrong. Those arguments are how I interpreted the last part of your blog post. And my hacking and alms-begging examples serve as counterexamples to the arguments. To state it logically: Rebuttal #1: Just because something is normal, it does not follow that every case of misrepresented blogging in general or the Ocab issue in particular is not wrong. Rebuttal #2: Just because forcing a child to do something may be beneficial to the child, it does not follow that forcing Carl Ocab to blog is beneficial as well. Did you get my point? You asked for an example similar to Carl's supposed situation. Please read the third paragraph in my first comment (the one about the supposed 12-year old blogger). That example illustrates one of the several reasons why Carl's <i>supposed</i> situation is wrong. The premise is this: Earning money through deception is wrong. So for the Ocab issue: Alan Ocab writing for Carl Ocab is deception. They are earning money from the popular blog which became popular because it was supposedly a real 13-year old blogging about making money. Therefore the deception is wrong. Now, can you see why the Ocab's issue <i>may</i> be wrong? That's how some people thought the situation is and why they cried foul. My hacking and alms-begging examples have nothing to directly do with the Ocab issue. I just stated these to point out that your two arguments are flawed:

Argument #1: Blogging as if you’re somebody else is normal, therefore Alan Ocab writing as if he were Carl Ocab is part of the norm and is not wrong.

Argument #2: A parent forcing a child to do something can be beneficial, therefore Alan Ocab forcing Carl Ocab to blog is not wrong.

Those arguments are how I interpreted the last part of your blog post. And my hacking and alms-begging examples serve as counterexamples to the arguments. To state it logically:

Rebuttal #1: Just because something is normal, it does not follow that every case of misrepresented blogging in general or the Ocab issue in particular is not wrong.

Rebuttal #2: Just because forcing a child to do something may be beneficial to the child, it does not follow that forcing Carl Ocab to blog is beneficial as well.

Did you get my point?

You asked for an example similar to Carl’s supposed situation. Please read the third paragraph in my first comment (the one about the supposed 12-year old blogger). That example illustrates one of the several reasons why Carl’s supposed situation is wrong. The premise is this: Earning money through deception is wrong. So for the Ocab issue: Alan Ocab writing for Carl Ocab is deception. They are earning money from the popular blog which became popular because it was supposedly a real 13-year old blogging about making money. Therefore the deception is wrong. Now, can you see why the Ocab’s issue may be wrong? That’s how some people thought the situation is and why they cried foul.

]]> By: SELaplana http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-83932 SELaplana Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:00:15 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-83932 <p><p>thanks for visiting me here. Sorry for calling you Antonista. Your blog's subdomain is Antonisat and I found it wonderful to call your blog Antonista... because you're anton and your sub domain is Antonisat... then your blog must be antonista. :-)</p><br /> <p>About your point, well... get it. I just mentioned you above because you wrote this at your blog:</p><br /> <p>"I am not going to link to his site because i will only make him famous...err...more famous that is."</p></p> <p>thanks for visiting me here. Sorry for calling you Antonista. Your blog’s subdomain is Antonisat and I found it wonderful to call your blog Antonista… because you’re anton and your sub domain is Antonisat… then your blog must be antonista. :-) </p>
<p>About your point, well… get it. I just mentioned you above because you wrote this at your blog:</p>
<p>”I am not going to link to his site because i will only make him famous…err…more famous that is.”</p>

]]> By: Anton http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-83925 Anton Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:58:42 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-83925 thanks for visiting my site and reading my post on the kid blogger.you have pointed out that my blog has 50 or so unique hits a day, but i do not tend to look at these things, i have had my blog for more than three years now or so and the number of hits is not really an issue for me. I am not afraid of carl ocab, sheesh, i just didn't want to link to his site to make a point. although i may have linked back to yuga's post, it was to reference the issue which i was talking about. I am not against the kid, nor have i chosen to take a side for the issue at hand, i was simply advocating that we leave them alone. you did get my point there? oh, and by the way, its not antonista, it's anton deleon to you. thanks for visiting my site and reading my post on the kid blogger.you have pointed out that my blog has 50 or so unique hits a day, but i do not tend to look at these things, i have had my blog for more than three years now or so and the number of hits is not really an issue for me. I am not afraid of carl ocab, sheesh, i just didn’t want to link to his site to make a point. although i may have linked back to yuga’s post, it was to reference the issue which i was talking about.

I am not against the kid, nor have i chosen to take a side for the issue at hand, i was simply advocating that we leave them alone.

you did get my point there?

oh, and by the way, its not antonista, it’s anton deleon to you.

]]> By: SELaplana http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-83904 SELaplana Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:55:40 +0000 http://www.selaplana.com/2007/08/16/the-controversy-on-the-blog-of-a-13-year-old-kid/#comment-83904 <p>thanks for visiting. anyway, i am not a lawyer, i don't even master English and Communication, and i am idiot in logic...</p> <p>however, </p> <p>1. I noticed that your example for misrepresented blogging, the case of the hacker of the Google blog and the case of the 13-year old kid are very much different. I suggest you give us similar example to convince me that ghost blogging (in the case of the blog of the 13-year old) is bad.</p> <p>2. Again, your example in forcing a child to ask for alm and the case of the 13-year old blogger are very much different. Give me similar example (in the case of the 13 year old blogger) that will convince me that forcing a 13 year old kid to blog is bad.</p> <p>Well, it is true that one thing can lead you to either of the two different ways. Just like a stone... it can help you succeed, but it can also lead you to your death.</p> <p>However, I think that the Father's role in a blog of a 13 year old blogger is not bad at all.</p> thanks for visiting. anyway, i am not a lawyer, i don’t even master English and Communication, and i am idiot in logic…

however,

1. I noticed that your example for misrepresented blogging, the case of the hacker of the Google blog and the case of the 13-year old kid are very much different. I suggest you give us similar example to convince me that ghost blogging (in the case of the blog of the 13-year old) is bad.

2. Again, your example in forcing a child to ask for alm and the case of the 13-year old blogger are very much different. Give me similar example (in the case of the 13 year old blogger) that will convince me that forcing a 13 year old kid to blog is bad.

Well, it is true that one thing can lead you to either of the two different ways. Just like a stone… it can help you succeed, but it can also lead you to your death.

However, I think that the Father’s role in a blog of a 13 year old blogger is not bad at all.

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