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Bro. Villanueva’s Doctrine of Civil Disobedience

Posted by Sustines Laplana, 22 February 2008 at Category/ies: Politics
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Note: I know that there are members of the the “Jesus Is Lord” movement led by Bro. Eddie Villanueva who are here regularly reading my posts. Don’t think negative about this post. I don’t hate your church not even Bro. Villanueva. I only want to comment about his statement during the interview by certain news reporter which was aired through the TV Patrol World of ABS-CBN.

I want to make it clear first that I am not a Bible Scholar. But I understand that to follow the laws imposed by the government as long as it doesn’t go against the laws of God is one of the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ. In other words, the true Christians are also good citizens of their country.

So, when I heard Bro. Villanueva said that he will tell his followers in the “Jesus is Lord” movement to disobey the laws of the government, I immediately asked my self, “where did Brother Villanueva get the idea of teaching his followers to do the so-called “Civil Disobedience”.

Well, it’s fine to disobey the laws of the government if it go against the law of God. But to disobey the laws just to show their dismay to the government’s official is I think a teaching not of Christ. I don’t know what verse in the Bible can we read the teaching of “Civil Disobedience” as prescribed by Bro. Villanueva.

Anyway, you can post at our comment section the idea of whether the so-called “Civil Disobedience” by Bro. Eddie Villanueva is good or not.

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35 Responses to “Bro. Villanueva’s Doctrine of Civil Disobedience”

  1. minor says:
    February 22, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Obviously its not right to call a movement to disobey the law of government lalo na kung galing to sa isang religion leader

    Ito ang bagay na hindi mo maririnig kay Ka Erdie.

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  2. Dexter | Techathand.net says:
    February 23, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    What I know from the bible is.. Whoever is in the government God put it there.. And the bible always tell us to respect the leaders because they are he lord in earth.

    If they are not worthy God himself will do something to remove them from their place.

    God has his plans and I know that moving a church for a demonstration is not good.

    But moving a church and having prayer rally is good but it should not be combined with politics. or never politics should be included in any prayer rally.

    Prayer Warrior should intercede to have good governance and not join in any public reaction.

    This is my conviction

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  3. ElectronicsLabdotPH says:
    February 26, 2008 at 11:13 am

    kailan ba tayo aasenso :(

    Reply
  4. vida rita says:
    March 1, 2008 at 12:55 am

    they all have their personal interest…joey de v jr, tells pgma to back off during the rally in makati, as in to step down, teka, whistle blowers nga siya but isnt it forbidden for relatives of govt officials to join the bid for any national trascation, joey is bidding for the zte,eh di siya nakalusot, so nag iingay siya, what if he got the bid for zte, he probably wouldnt be singing this tune…ironic, pathetic….parepareho tayo!!!kahit sino i position niyo jan, it is already in our culture!

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  5. Showbiz Intriga? Get It From Boy! says:
    March 2, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    what i’m concerned about is why are the so-called church people so easily condemning another person just from a 30 seconds newscasts or from a testimony without any evidence. Catholicism and Jesus Christ taught us not to judge lest we be judged..

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  6. mspre_ybriksam says:
    March 6, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Favor ako kay bro.eddie…ang tinig ng nakakarami ay tinig ng Diyos…biblical yan…makipagtalo pikon…hehe…

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  7. Dennis says:
    March 15, 2008 at 8:02 am

    I myself am a new Chrisitian and I was just recently watching one of Bro. Eddie’s interview he had here in the states. It sounds as if he has good intentions for the Lord. And so far I have not yet seen or heard anything negative until I read this blog. Yes, it does say somewhere in the Bible to obey the ruling government. And to tell your followers of Christ to disobey the government isn’t something God would tell us to do. We must pray for the government and keep on spreading the message of the Gospel to our people and let God change people because it’s certainly not us that can make people change. Only Jesus has the power to tranform our hearts. I believe that it is only Jesus that can make a difference in our country. We must keep spreading the Word of God and continue to lead by example and cointinue to let Christ shine through us.

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  8. Yaye says:
    March 18, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Are the Biblical principles relative? meaning dito sa ‘Pinas puede civil disobedience pero sa Cuba, China, North Korea hindi puede kasi takot lang nilang sagasaan ng tanke… saan nga ba sa Bible puede makita ang Civil Disobedience? nasa Bible din ba yung ‘ang tinig ng nakakarami eh ang tinig ng Diyos?’ so nung sinasabi ng mga Israelita na ipako sa Krus si Kristo, nung nagagalit ang mga iyun dahil dinala sila ni Moses sa disyerto eh tinig ng Diyos din yun? lahat ba ng taga JIL eh sumama sa civil disobedience?

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  9. und says:
    November 9, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    whos bro. eddie .is he a leader, pastor or priest or deacon.im sory but i dont know him

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  10. reinhard belleza says:
    February 23, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    kindly upload in this website the video interview of bro eddie regarding to your concern.

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    • SELaplana says:
      February 24, 2009 at 8:47 am

      the interview was recorded by almost all TV stations in Manila.

      If you’re a JIL member, you better ask your Pastors about it because they know about it.

  11. reinhard belleza says:
    February 23, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    bro eddie villanueva is the president of the JESUS IS LORD CHURCH WORLDWIDE

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  12. SIDNEY CUASAY says:
    May 15, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    “where did bro.eddie get the idea of teaching his followers to do so called civil dis obedience, simple lang 4yrs is enough to seat gma, pero nadagdagan pa ng another 6yrs na balot na balot ng questionableng pagkapanalo daw…..at ito na nman niluluto ang cha cha to extend na nman ang terms ni gma.. na pilit na pilit gustong ma amyendahan ng mga congresistang mga kaalyadong ng administrasyon,n busog na busog n sa kapangyarihan… aalisin ang karapatan ng isang ordinaryong pilipino na bomoto,at pumili ng karapat dapat na maupo at manungkulan, thats why civil disobedience ang isang way para ipa alam sa gobyernong ito na di lahat ay pwede nilang gawin para sa pansariling interes ng iilan lamang…. nagawa ntin ang isang bloodless revolution, ang isang edsa2… at lahat yan ay nagtagumpay tayo…. mabuhay ang mga taong tunay na nagmamahal sa Dios at sa bayan.

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  13. SIDNEY CUASAY says:
    May 15, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    “where did bro.eddie get the idea of teaching his followers to do so called civil dis obedience, simple lang 4yrs is enough to seat gma, pero nadagdagan pa ng another 6yrs na balot na balot ng questionableng pagkapanalo daw…..at ito na nman niluluto ang cha cha to extend na nman ang terms ni gma.. na pilit na pilit gustong ma amyendahan ng mga congresistang mga kaalyadong ng administrasyon,n busog na busog n sa kapangyarihan… aalisin ang karapatan ng isang ordinaryong pilipino na bomoto,at pumili ng karapat dapat na maupo at manungkulan, thats why civil disobedience ang isang way para ipa alam sa gobyernong ito na di lahat ay pwede nilang gawin para sa pansariling interes ng iilan lamang…. nagawa ntin ang isang bloodless revolution, ang isang edsa2… at lahat yan ay nagtagumpay tayo….

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  14. lawrence encarnacion says:
    June 7, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    ang lahat ng nangyayari ay nasa kphintulutan ng Dios pero di Niya kalooban na ang isang lider ay gumawa ng masama k2lad ni arroyo marami ng iskandalo ang naganap sa kanyang pamumuno patid nga ang pagkapanalo niya sa eleksyon ay may maraming katanungan tulad ngayon gusto nilang palitan ang konstitusyon para lang mapanatili sa pwesto at sino ang kikilos?ang Dios ba mismo?bababa ba ang Dios para mawakasan ang kasamaan ng nasa gobyerno hindi gagamit siya ng tao na tunay na nagmamahal katarungan, katotohanan at katuwiran si bro eddie ang tumugon para sa PAGBABAGO .Ang civil disovidience ay nangyari na nun pa sa panahon ng kastila ang magigiting pilipino ay walang takot na sinira ang kanilang sedula bilang protesta sa mapaniil na banyaga kaya tama lang ginawa ni bro eddie bilang lider ng Jil hindi ako kabilang sa kanilang samahan pero naniniwala ako sa PAGBABAGO we need change now sumuporta ako sa kanya last 2004 election at ngaung 2010 i still support him go bro eddie we need change now God bless the Philippines

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  15. lawrence encarnacion says:
    June 7, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    ang lahat ng nangyayari ay nasa kphintulutan ng Dios pero di Niya kalooban na ang isang lider ay gumawa ng masama k2lad ni arroyo marami ng iskandalo ang naganap sa kanyang pamumuno pati nga ang pagkapanalo niya sa eleksyon ay may maraming katanungan tulad ngayon gusto nilang palitan ang konstitusyon para lang mapanatili sa pwesto at sino ang kikilos?ang Dios ba mismo?bababa ba ang Dios para mawakasan ang kasamaan ng nasa gobyerno hindi gagamit siya ng tao na tunay na nagmamahal sa katarungan, katotohanan at katuwiran si bro eddie ang tumugon para sa PAGBABAGO .Ang civil disovidience ay nangyari na nun pa sa panahon ng kastila ang magigiting na pilipino ay walang takot na sinira ang kanilang sedula bilang protesta sa mapaniil na banyaga kaya tama lang ginawa ni bro eddie bilang lider ng Jil hindi ako kabilang sa kanilang samahan ako may simbahang kinaaniban Ang Jesus the Messiah church pero naniniwala ako sa PAGBABAGO we need change now sumuporta ako sa kanya last 2004 election at ngaung 2010 i still support him go bro eddie we need change now God bless the Philippines

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  16. lawrence encarnacion says:
    June 7, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    kailangin din ang nasa gobyerno ay may takot sa Dios tulad ngaum wala silang takot gumawa ng masama kailan kaya matututo ang lahing pilipino kawawa tayo patuloy na niyuyurakan ngunit may pag asa pa kailangan ang maupo sa gobyerno ay may takot sa Dios si bro eddie ang karapatdapat para sa pagbabago

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  17. koko says:
    June 14, 2009 at 12:31 am

    sana naman wag na makialam sa politika ang leader nyo, baka hanggang ngayon masakit pa ang loob at hindi matanggap ang pagkatalo.

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  18. jhun... says:
    July 13, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    please magtulungan po tayo…let’s just try not to vote a TRAPO….at least we will try one in a lifetime. my point is sana may takot sa Diyos and magiging lider ng bansa…

    our country is a sleeping 1st world super country, the only problem ay tayo, ayaw nating buksan ang ating isip sa pagmamahal ng bayan at pag pursige ng pagbabago…change is a process, it takes time, i hope we will start the process this 2010 elections…

    dito sa mid east, kaming mga engineers ay trusted and haligi ng trabaho ng mga ARABO(Saudi Arabia), ibig sabihin kahit maliit tayong bansa ay kilala tayo sa talino at galing…sana gamitin nating yan sa tama just for the sake of our children’s children…

    God bless and good luck to us…please hguwag na tayo maging pilosopo or sobrang makasarili or sobrang magaling, let’s help one another and inspire one another para makapili ng tamang lider of course with our prayers to our Lord God thru Jesus…

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  19. fred Balle says:
    August 31, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Ako ay para kay Kristo ako kasama ng tunay na mga Kristiyano ang buhay ko ay para sa Pagbabago kaya ang iboboto ko si bro Eddie para presidente!

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  20. louie says:
    October 11, 2009 at 5:38 am

    selaplana! kailan sinabi ni bro eddie na magdisobedience sa gov’t? wala noh! at kahit kailan hindi nya kami tinuruan magdisobedience, ang sabi niya let us pray for the go’vt na magkaroon passion sa bansa, diobedience ba yun??? bago ka gumawa ng commenttary mo pag aralan mo muna ang charcter ni bro eddie di mo pa nga siya kilala ng huhusga kana! anong klase tao? tao ka ba? or allien ng gov’t ha! magbasa ka muna ng bible ng maigi! c moises ba ng kinausap niya ang pharaon na para ilabs ang tao sa ehipto at kinalaban niya ang gotv ng ehipto sa pagpapahirap sa sa mga straelita, Dis obedience ba yun? kapag galit ka ba sa kasalan at pangbababoy sa bansa natin? disobedience ba yun? c bro eddie filipino citizen, ay makrapatan siyang magsalita at magalit gov’t kug hindi maganda ginagawa sa bansa niya. dahil nas constitution yan the rights of the people ta sabi ng Dios ang lhat ng batas ay may pahintulot niya. last word para sau colomusnista sepaplana, kilalanin mo muna si bro eddie bago ka mgcomment sa kanya.God bless sa buhay mo.

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    • SELaplana says:
      October 12, 2009 at 10:10 am

      uhummm…. mukhang isa ka sa hindi nakapanood ng interview ng ABS-CBN with GMA reporters kay bro mo eddie noon. Hindi ako magrereact dito kung hindi ako nakapanood at nakapakinig sa sinabi nya sa national TV. So, kung hindi ka sang-ayon sa civil disobedience na sinabi ni bro mo eddie na kasama na doon ang hindi pagbabayad ng buwis, e para mo na ring sinabi na hindi ka kaespiritu ni bro mo eddie.

  21. louie says:
    October 12, 2009 at 10:23 am

    IKW MAY SABI NIYAN….. BKIT HINDI U TANUNGIN SI BRO EDDIE 2NGKOL JAN SA INTERVIEW NIYA SA 2 NETWORK PARA 2NAY NA DAHILAN…….IKW BA NAGBABAYAD KA BA NG TAMANG BUWIS……..?

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  22. Rommel says:
    December 7, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    FOR ALL THE THINGS I KNOW ABOUT BRO.EDDIE VILLANUEVA IS THAT “Hindi siya tumatanggap ng suhol mula sa mga politicians, para ipagpatayo ng mga KAPILYA o sambahang MAGAGANDA”.

    The Government of GMA is a fake coz it came from LIES, Stealing AND Cheating! FPG should be our President per se……

    I KNOWS things like MAGUINDANAO MASACCRE!!! itanong nyo KAY ELIE SORIANO!

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  23. nilo says:
    January 12, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    I have not read nor heard any statement of Bro. Eddie on civil disobedience. What I have read and heard are his factual criticisms on the sins committed by our leader (Arroyo) – like stealing Eddie’s votes and padding into Arroyo’s votes in the past election – against the Filipino people. Eddie’s actions are just the acts of fulfilling the prophetic tasks of a Christian leader, like calling forth a sinning leader of the nation to her sins into repentance. Even Jesus himself exemplified the acts of confronting the religious and political leaders of his time. John the baptist was beheaded when he rebuked Herod of adultery. The OT prophets were executed by the leaders of their times when they confronted them with the message of God rebuking them of sins. Scripture does not call Christians to blind submission to the evils of government leadership. That is passivity, a misinterpretation of the Bible, brought by western theology. Christians are the light and slat of the society. We are called to build God’s kingdom (reign or rule), characterized by truth, justice, righteousness, peace, salvation, and the good life promised by the Lord. Perhaps, it is a better position to respect Eddie for what he believes is God’s mandate for him than to judge him our of our limited knowledge and ignorance.

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