Sa America, merong MAYER- so what’s new?

You can really run your can on water but you have to mofidy a lot of things and where is design efficiency leading to- mas magastos beside it’s hard that your car will be fully competing with your water consumption- lalong magmamahal ang tubig.

Mabuti pa MAG- BLACKGOLD SAVER na lang kayo! bago ‘to sariling atin! WATER TO NITROUS OXYHYDROGEN FUEL SAVER AND EMISSION CLEANER, todits o:

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ZyberDon

.This is to correct the link to: THE AUTOSURFING TIMES-VISIONS

I’m glad that I got here and maybe share to you my knowledge about that DINGEL thang!

Please read the little Science of this invention claims at:

The Autosurfing Times-Visions, “Much Agog About Water Fuel”

The Water Fuel term is a misnomer because it is the separated gases of oxygen and hydrogen that actually fuels the combustion generated by electrolyzing water.

And we cannot run our car fully with water as it will only make water more precious- the best thing is to use this Water to Oxy-Hydrogen Gas technology as a Fuel Booster TO SAVE 30 TO 40% on Gasoline Fuel as I’ve proven in my own experimentations.

Anyone interested in this technology call me…

Engr. June A. Yasol
63920-837-1042
june@junjen.com

The lengthy comment posted above is actually not about the exact information about how he created his invention but is about the estafa case against him. So, obviously that comment couldn’t be used as back up to the claims that his invention is fake.

Although there is a relationship between the estafa and his invention but I need to see first by my self or by any one the inside of the device Dingel used and how he designed it before I’ll conclude that my belief about his invention is wrong.

thank you for dropping by

http://www.electronicslab.ph/forum/index.php?topic=1906.0

But of course, we couldn’t tell yet if he’s invention is real or not until Engr Dingel will reveal the secret of his invention.

I will repost my posts here:

Do people still believe in this Daniel Dingel and his Water Powered Hoax?

I really do not believe in this guy Daniel Dingel. He is so full of bull manure. He just swindled a Taiwanese firm out of a lot of money and I think THAT (money) is the purpose of this dog and pony show he displays through the media. It is all smoke and mirrors, sleight of hand. He is not a scientist, just a clever magician just like Jun Labo (he works along similar lines).

He claims to be sincere in “not wanting money” and “just wanting to help” but IF he is really sincere in wanting to help mankind, then why withhold his “secret formula?” I don’t buy the reason that “Oil Companies are Suppressing me”… that’s nonsense! If the Oil Industry objects, then he has the Automotive Industry to turn to!

I also don’t buy what he says that he “does not want foreigners to benefit from a Filipino invention” which is BS too! If you find a cure for cancer and have the capacity to cure thousands of people, would you not take the opportunity to share it to the world whether Filipinos would benefit from it or not? The world now has wars and thousands are dying for oil. If you really are doing things “from the kindness of your heart” then you would do something to put a stop to it – no matter who benefits. But why isn’t this so-called “kindness of his heart” prompting him to “save mankind” from the clutches of the oil sheiks? Because there isn’t any “invention” but just a SHOW to elicit $upport for his water powered nonsense.

Read the article below from the Inquirer:

Inventor, 82, gets 20 years for ‘estafa’
By Allison Lopez
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:11:00 12/20/2008

Filed Under: Crime, Automotive Equipment
MANILA, Philippines—Daniel Dingel, 82-year-old inventor of a “water-powered car,” has been convicted of “estafa” [swindling] and sentenced to a maximum of 20 years imprisonment by the Parañaque City Regional Trial Court.

The court also ordered him to pay $380,000 in actual damages.

Dingel, who has never revealed the secret to his invention, which he began in 1969, questioned the verdict but said he did not mind going to jail at his age. As of late Friday, he remained at large.

“‘Hindi ko naman kailangan ng pera’ [I don’t need the money],” he said. “I had bigger offers but I never took them. I never asked the government for a single centavo … I just want to help.”

Dingel was found guilty of taking $410,000 from Dr. John Ding Young of Formosa Plastics Group, a Taiwanese company, which gave it to him as research and development funds.

The decision, written by Judge Rolando How of the court’s Branch 257 and released on Dec. 9, said Dingel defrauded Young when the inventor failed to fulfill his obligation of developing his “hydrogen reactor” and creating experimental cars in 2000.

Veteran lawyer Frank Chavez, who was approached by Dingel on Friday, said he would immediately appeal the court decision before it became final on Christmas Eve.

“I am taking up his case and will see to it that his conviction is reversed,” Chavez said. “Mankind will benefit from his invention … How will we know his secret if we put him behind bars?”

Chavez, a former solicitor general, said he was impressed when he rode Dingel’s “water-powered” Toyota Corolla sedan.

Preliminary understanding

In his testimony to the court, Young said his group eagerly approached Dingel in November 2000 after hearing that he had discovered a way to extract hydrogen from ordinary water to power his 1996 Toyota Corolla.

The unique device — a “hydrogen reactor” resembling a 12-volt battery — impressed the Taiwanese when Dingel demonstrated how it powered and fueled the car’s engine. They were also told that fuel from water had clean emissions as it did not produce carbon the way gasoline did.

Convinced that the invention was genuine, Young and his group drew up a broad outline and signed a “preliminary understanding” with Dingel for several projects.

On Nov. 30, 2000, the inventor flew to the Formosa Plastics Group headquarters in Taipei and received $30,000 in goodwill money and $20,000 for research and development after signing a joint venture agreement.

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Young said Dingel asked for $300,000 to buy three cars to be used as prototypes for the invention when he returned to the Philippines.

He said that after receiving the money by wire transfer, Dingel avoided replying to his emails on the progress of the project and instead sent copies of letters from other foreign investors offering Dingel larger sums of money.

Young said that in September 2001 Dingel declined to sign the amended agreement when he was asked to go to Taipei to discuss mutual concerns on the project.

Young said he kept his end of the bargain by sending another $60,000 in additional funds for R&D as stated in the joint venture agreement.

He said it was then that Dingel began ignoring his communications. He said he sent demand letters for the return of $410,000 were but Dingel did not give the amount back.

Defense

In his defense, Dingel said he backed out of talks with the Taiwanese after he was pressured to divulge details of his project, which he said he refused to do to protect his invention.

Dingel said that after touring the plant in Taipei he was invited to become the company’s consultant and was asked to tour Formosa Plastics Group plants in Texas. He said he declined for fear for his life.

“‘Tumanggi ako kasi alam ko may pinatay na imbentor ng water-fueled car’ [I declined because I know another inventor of a water-fueled car had been murdered],” he said, referring to Stan Meyer, who allegedly received threats from oil companies and was allegedly poisoned in 1998 because of his pioneering invention.

Dingel admitted signing the joint agreement but said he did not know what he was signing at the time. He said an envelope containing $30,000 was given to him in appreciation of his consultancy work and $300,000 was remitted to him only as an incentive for submitting his drawings and designs.

The court found Dingel guilty of misappropriating the funds he received from Formosa Plastics Group.

Judge How said Dingel admitting that he received the funds and documentary evidence from Yung, such as the joint venture agreement, showed that the funds were given for “specific purposes.”

“Mr. Dingel did not use the money for the purpose it was intended,” the court decision said. “…He excused himself from producing or developing the prototypes allegedly after entertaining the notion that his invention would be stolen. Since he thought of it, he should have returned the money to Dr. Young and told the latter to forget his invention.”

The decision said that instead of returning the money, Dingel withdrew $375,603.89 from his bank account and left only $500.

“He admitted withdrawing the money after learning that a suit had been filed against him,” it said. “His act of immediately withdrawing the money indicated bad faith on his part.”

Judge How said Dingel failed to support with evidence his claim that he had earned the money and therefore had no obligation to return it.

He said Dingel’s reasoning that he did not read the joint venture agreement before signing it was “too flimsy to be given an ounce of consideration.”

“He did not purchase the three cars, [he] did not work on his research and [he] did not develop the invention … Mr. Dingel’s misappropriation of the money has no doubt resulted to damage and prejudice of Dr. Young and the FPG in the sum of $380,000,” the decision said.

In an interview with the Philippine Daily Inquirer, Dingel said he was still willing to sell his biggest secret — on condition that the buyer would hire 200 Filipinos and their families.

He said the royalties to be paid to him would go to a foundation he would set up for the poor.

The Department of Science and Technology has dismissed Dingel’s invention as a hoax. Edited by INQUIRER.net

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Too many inconsistencies in Dingel’s statements.

1. He said his “device” costs only PhP 500 to produce and he already has a prototype for it. If that’s true, then why did he need to ask for $300,000 from the Taiwanese just to produce 3 cars? $100,000 per car? Come on now. He even asked for $60,000 as “R and D” funds. Akala ko ba 500 pesos lang may “reactor” ka na para sa water car?

2. He also said: “‘Hindi ko naman kailangan ng pera’ [I don’t need the money],” he said. “I had bigger offers but I never took them. I never asked the government for a single centavo … I just want to help.”… Really? If that’s true, then why did he ask for so much money from Formosa? Why is he grumbling that “I never get support from the Government” if he “doesn’t need money?”

If he really has an intention to help mankind, then he would launch his invention and save the world from the “clutches of the oil companies”. I don’t buy the excuse that “Filipinos would not benefit if I sell the technology to foreigners”. That’s BULL. Everyone in the world would benefit if the (supposed) invention becomes widespread. If I had a cure for cancer, I would not keep it from the world but spread it whether “Filipinos would benefit” or mankind.

He also says that he is afraid his “invention” would be stolen. HELLO! If it goes into mass production, others could easily replicate it anyway so what is he fearing?

I know he has a lot of rabid Pinoy fans who trumpet how he exemplifies “Filipino Ingenuity” but only fools would believe in him.

I couldn’t believe there are still people who are stupid enough to believe him. He said he needed “support”. If he already has the prototype, then the support he needed was mass production. If the thing only costs 500 pesos to produce then he would have no problem making arrangements with the many Pinoy/Tsinoy millionaires to manufacture that thing and put up shops that would install it in cars.

I think Dingel’s racket works this way. He would peddle a sob story about a “brilliant but poor inventor” who “just needs support” but is neglected by the Government and yet is patriotic etc etc… Then some people would be willing to help him financially… until it comes to a point where he can give them a cockameemee excuse like “I can no longer do it because the oil companies will kill me” or simply ignore their communications (like what he did to the Taiwanese company that believed in him)…. Then the money disappears into his bank accounts.